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While we stare unflinchingly at Hussein, with our secret confirmation that he's lying, what should be happening around the world?
North Korea is restarting its breeder reactors and telling the UN to fuck off.

But, let's worry about Iraq, they're much more dangerous. Oh, and that promise to Afghanistan that we'd pick up the pieces after we blew up their country? We'll think about it.

Gotta love international politics.

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robont
Dec. 12th, 2002 08:35 am (UTC)
Not to mention the fact that the US has been lieing to it's own people... Did you catch 60 minutes this past weekend?? Very interesting.........
andysocial
Dec. 12th, 2002 08:50 am (UTC)
Nope, I missed that. What new atrocity is being bandied about?
robont
Dec. 12th, 2002 08:56 am (UTC)
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They had the story about the "Iraq throwing kids out of incubators" being a lie worked out between the Kuwati's and a Madason Ave. firm. The link between the terrorists and Iraq was also a lie, and the meeting the government claimed happened never in fact did, of course that was told to them by the CIA but they chose not to release that... It was basically explaining how Washington is using some of Madison Ave. 's tricks to sell the war on terrorism.. Interesting but sad.........
andysocial
Dec. 12th, 2002 09:14 am (UTC)
OH, that stuff. :-)

Yeah, I know a lot of disinformation gets spread about, and the lies (er, incomplete information) gets trumpeted as a big deal, and the retractions show up as tiny print on a congressional record.
robont
Dec. 12th, 2002 09:17 am (UTC)
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Ya I understand the logic behind with holding information, it is a necessary evil in that game.. But to make up stuff, sigh... Well you know... Just a sad world we live in some days
andysocial
Dec. 12th, 2002 11:16 am (UTC)
Occasionally, they get bad intell that turns out to have vastly different implications than what turns out to be true. But, the Tenet team seems to have a lot more just-plain-nonsense than his predecessors.
partywhipple
Dec. 12th, 2002 10:40 am (UTC)
If we promised them (Afghanistan) aid beyond removing their frakishly extreemely muslim government then we need to stick to our word.

North Korea can freaking burn in my opinion. It sickens me that they got to receive so much aid from us in the past. Paying a country to not build weapons is like paying off a bully in my opinion. Let them freeze for a little while this winter and we'll see if they keep saying what they do.

I hate international politics. It's almost impossible to get a clear picture of any of our relationships with foreign powers due to the spin our government, their government, and the media put on everything. Also, you never know if some crazy ass move by us is actually do to Intel we have which we are reacting to but never make public. Gah!
andysocial
Dec. 12th, 2002 11:14 am (UTC)
Kim Il Sung was a master of brinksmanship, and enjoyed playing Hitler to our Chamberlain for 40 years. His son is much less adept at it, and ends up with the massive missteps we've seen the past 5 years.

I love that they are claiming that they have to crank up the breeder reactors because we stopped giving them oil. We only gave them oil if they stopped making nukes. Admit to nukes, lose the oil. Seems obvious, but Koreans (both DPRK and ROK) enjoy blaming other countries for their own policy blunders.
partywhipple
Dec. 12th, 2002 11:38 am (UTC)
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Yeah, it seems rather easy to me. Is it that they think they can get MORE out of us? I'm annoyed enough we had to pay them off in the first place.

If their communist paradise works so well, why do they need such huge donations from us, South Korea and Japan anyway? Hmmmmmm....
tdj
Dec. 12th, 2002 10:43 am (UTC)
The argument being that North Korea is now too dangerous to mess with - a state of being that we don't want Iraq to achieve.

North Korea is a much bigger mess, but it's also a much more perilous one. I have to hold my nose at the entire debacle, but I can understand why it stinks.
andysocial
Dec. 12th, 2002 11:06 am (UTC)
Full disclosure: I spent 12 years in the army studying the DPRK.


Yes, North Korea is a precarious situation, which is why we keep pacifying them with concessions. But, the administration's words don't match their actions. If the axis of evil is bad, why is Iraq the only one getting attention? I'd think a quick decisive strike against the party headquarters in the DPRK would be a pretty good Christmas present for Kim Jong Il. Might dissuade him from being naughty in the coming year.
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